Stoney Knows How Transcript
- [Interviewer] What's that your grandfather used to do, that story about the mailman?
- [Stoney] Oh good gosh. I don't tell that. He came to me with the paper and he named somebody that we all knew, the postmaster in the little town, you know, coal camp. Everybody knew Oscar Connor because that's postmaster. And he says, "Well, I see some news from home this morning." Yeah, I don't know, I must have been nine years old. Oscar Connor was indicted and they think he's going to get five years in prison. What did he do, grandpa? He was why white washing rat manure and selling it for rice. All that of stuff. Well sure. Me as a little crippled up grandson there, he made us all laugh.
- [Ed Hardy] Stoney, what did your dad do?
- [Stoney] What did my daddy do? His father was a miner and he got accidentally shot through the neck. It was in the line of fire, round a company store. Laid him outta work. My dad had to quit school at 14, went trapping in the coal mines. 65 cents a day and he had to keep the family up. When grandpa got back to work, my daddy went back to school and he became a motorman inside of the mine, that's running a train, electric train under there. About 19 and 16 or 17, he put me in Johns Hopkins, I had rheumatism, for $3 a day. Today you can't get in there for a hundred dollars a day. His wages were two and a half dollars a day. He had little money in the bank and he went broke. I stayed in there 24 months and-
- [Sue] Tell 'em about the little circus wagon.
- [Stoney] And I used my stationary up then, drawing a circus wagon on each sheet of a different thing. Animals and the band and everything. And then I would paste them together and I had a string as long as near across that street over you unrolled it and look at them little old circus wagons and stuff that just come up my blood, because I had a, an uncle that was in that business. I had to follow him into it.
- [Interviewer] How long have you been on this block, Mr. Hartman?
- [Mr. Hartman] Right here? 30 years.
- [Interviewer] Do you, do you own this store here?
- Yeah.
- What's it like having a tattoo artist next door?
- I wish I had two of 'em like Stoney.
- [Mr. Hartman] Good neighbor, good businessman, a heck of a good fella. One of the best. If I had one next I'd get maybe more business, 'cause a lot of his customers, believe it or not, they'd get tattoos, come in here and buy vacuum cleaners and sewing machines. You'd be surprised who comes in there and get tattoos. There are a lot of nurses, doctors, lawyers, churchmen, clergymen.
- [Interviewer] Oh really?
- You'd be surprised some of the people that come in there. Most people are of the opinion a person that comes in and gets a tattoo rides a motorcycle and is a drunken sailor. And this isn't true. A matter of fact, I used to think that myself years ago.
- [Stoney] This Gretchen, German sword swallower. I wanted to follow this coal show and I couldn't, there was nothing I could do, couldn't do anything. And this woman, she got fired in Bluefield, West Virginia, 30 miles from my home, and she heard my story. I wanted to go with the circus and I was crippled. And she took me under her wing and in three days she had a stove poker down my throat. I could swallow swords. And I started out $75 a week, three meals a day and a state room on a circus train. My uncle liked to blowed his stack.
- (Stoney) Oh my god. All right, we played in Norfolk, Virginia and was in there four days. Fastest tattoo shop on East Main, Cap Coleman. And I didn't know nothing about tattooing. We had a drunken tattooer on our place. So I says, I gonna go in there and look at his pictures. You're not gonna get tattooed. I says never in this world. No, I'm a sword swallower. 15 years old, crippled. They took me in there and I saw one putting an eagle on a sailor's back. I knew I could draw a better eagle than that. And I got an old piece of paper off of the desk over in the corner, I says, "Could I borrow a sheet of this paper?" Yeah, go right ahead. A cigarette hanging in his mouth and his, old big black heavy tattoos on him. I drew an eagle and he said, "How'd you learn to do that?" And I told him, I said, "I just picked it up." Do you ever think about doing this? Says no. Next day I went down there and stayed three hours with him. I was there four days, the fourth day he said, "When you leaving?" I told him tomorrow. He said, "You come by here and see me. I got something for you." He gave me two old machines, and two or three sheets of designs.
-(Stoney) Professor EJ Miller across the street had drawn and a stencil and showed me how to cut stencil with a phonograph needle to scratch, and some black and red. And he says, "If you get stuck, you write to me." I got out on the road, started working on them grapefruits. And I started tattooing them guys behind the elephant barn. Finally, the tattooer and the sideshow boss got in a racket. And he run him off and he says, "hey kid", says, "I know you've been sneaking a little stuff around here." And says, "you get up on that platform", and says, "just put on whatever you think you can do, a name or heart, don't try anything complicated 'cause we don't want no beefs." And he says, "I'll run an ad in the billboard and I'll have another jagger back in here next week." Jagger, see?
- Right.
- [Stoney] So I got up on the platform and he ain't run no god damn ad. I've been there ever since. That's the way it worked. It was by accident. Yeah, accident.
- [Interviewer] This your first tattoo?
- [Man Getting Tattooed] Yeah.
- [Stoney] He was with his buddy here the other day.
- [Man Getting Tattooed] I think I'm going to get more though, later on.
- [Stoney] Oh you are. I'm putting comeback in it. I, I drop a little two drops of it in there, you know, come back.
- [Stoney] Yeah.
- Dan's gonna get another one.
- [Stoney] Oh, Stoney's not crazy. Must be something to him. All them old coon dog and all of them, keep coming back and sending me people and everything. Cousineau, all of 'em.
- [Interviewer] Tattoo a lot of football players, Stoney?
- [Stoney] Yes, yes. These guys can tell you. They see 'em on 'em, don't you?
- Yep.
- We're all crazy.
- [Stoney laughing] No, you're not crazy. Weightlifters, football players, and wrestlers.
- Wrestlers.
- That's what I get.
- [Man Getting Tattooed] That's good, that's good.
- [Stoney] Don't get ready for anything. Don't prepare for anything. That's what's going to happen, nothing. There's nothing gonna happen. You just watch me. Look at him curlin' his toes.
- [Stoney] Yeah.
- [Stoney] They be wantin to play tootsies. I'm in no mood to play tootsies. What was the first tattoo you ever put on, Stoney?
- You're not gonna remember.
- [Stoney] Oh yes I do. That one, that star on my hand.
- [Interviewer] 51 years ago.
- [Stoney] 51 Years ago. Yeah. I was determined to have this one, I-
- [Camera Man] Can I see? But hang on, I didn't see it.
- [Stoney] Inside the lip.
- [Interviewer] It says, Leo.
- [Stoney] If you do it to a race horse, I can do it.
- [Interviewer] Can you do that again?
- [Camera Man] Can you do it again? We missed it.
- [Stoney] My lip?
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- [Camera Man] Hold it toward me. Okay. Okay, I got it.
- [Interviewer] You got stars inside your eyelid?
- [Stoney] Yeah, that's stars inside the eyelid. But I can't show them. I'm afraid to turn the lid up. Leave it to us hillbillies, think up something. You like that don't you?
- [Interviewer] Yeah, I like that.
- [Stoney] S-U-M-P-I-N. Like I say buddy, this hillbilly accent has been with me a long time and I'll be damned if I'd change it, because it's paying off. Yeah, it's paying off like a slot machine.
- [Camera Man] Well it's not put on.
- [Stoney] No, it's not put on. It comes from the heart.
- Uh huh.
- Yeah.
- [Stoney] I can't guarantee that any longer than 10 days after you buried. Keep it out from under freight trains and stuff like that. It'll be right there. Glad you came?
- Heck yes. I am too!
- Don't want you go around looking like the great speckle bird or something.
- So, it might be paint, I was painting yesterday.
- No, it's not paint. That's my fallout.
- [Stoney] Yeah. You wanna put the patch on there Brian?
- [Brian] I'll put the patch on it yeah.
- All righty.
- Now can you raise your leg up a little?
- Yeah, I'll help him. Right there.
- Now I'll put this where I'd be sure, to catch some hair and hold.
- [Stoney] Yeah get the hair and hold that.
- [Stoney] Aren't we mean? What was the price on that bear?
- 22 I think.
- 22. You know, most tattooers make you pay in advance. You never seen me do that, have you? And nobody's ever, ever done it to me. No. I, I think, see, I was raised that you trust, you trust people, you know, and I could just look, I say, "What was your price over there?" And he'll tell me. Hell, he's gonna tell you the truth.
- Right.
- That's what he is. And you can trust people that way. If you, if you learn what trust is, that's a great damn thing. You know that?
- I think it's all there.
- [Stoney] It's there. I don't need to have to try. Don't, don't count it. That's just how, I feel everybody else is the same.
- Thanks a lot.
- Yeah, thank you boys. And y'all be behave, you know where I live.
- You got it.
- All righty.
- Take it easy Stoney.
- All right. Okay fellas, y'all take care.
- [Man In Black Shirt] Is there any one you'd put on there for any less than that? I saved money I wanted to cover, but I-
- [Stoney] I can put you a rose on there for, for just about $18. That's about as low as I can come now.
- [Man In Black Shirt] Yeah, okay I'll have it done 'cause I, I wanna.
- Okay.
- I wanna cover.
- I know initials give you, turn your chair around, sit set sideways to me here buddy. Names or initials, if you're a married man, gives you a fit.
- Well I had to put it on when I was 15 years old.
- I know it, but it's some girl's name ain't it?
- Yeah.
- And your wife don't like it? Is that what it is?
- Well, not really, I just want to cover.
- Oh, here, put your hand straight through here, buddy
- Oh, straight there.
- Now you lean, you lean right, little, little further now. Alright. Did somebody send you to me?
- No, I'm just cruising up the avenue here.
- You haven't heard of me?
- No, sir.
- Oh, raise your arm up. Well, I'm known all over the world, so have faith in me.
- [Ed Hardy] Who did that tattoo?
- This one here?
- This one's homemade.
- A friend of mine, when we was drinking a lot of beer you know, we was young and putting tattoos on each other.
- [Stoney] I'll tell you why I never liked to ask a guy who did his homemade job. Because sometimes that's done in some unfamiliar places.
- Yeah, right.
- Yeah, so you don't wanna call the name and you don't want to tell where you was at when you had to put on. So therefore, I don't embarrass him by askin' him. You see? 'Cause a lot of that is, we call, chain gang tattooing. Did in jail, a lot of it.
- Oh yeah. But you can do the same thing at home or sitting in Sunday school.
- Oh we were hooking school that day.
- Yeah.
- [Interviewer] Was it you that were telling me, that was telling me, one time, a woman kept having a, a series of names put on her back and she'd come back in a little while.
- [Stoney] It was on her hip, on her cheek of her hip, ha-ha!
- [Interviewer] And you'd cover it with a little ribbon?
- I put- No! I covered them with uh, property of and a name. You know what that is, property of?
- Yeah.
- That means it belongs to so and so, Big Bad John.
- Right.
- Forces women to come in and get tattoos. Later on, she came in when he kicks her out, we fight like cats and dogs. I says, well, you better straighten up and fly right, because every time he gets mad at you, he's gonna bring it up that he married a cemetery because that's what it looks like. Six wreaths and then another name.
- [Interviewer] Oh my.
- [Stoney] The only safe name to put on you is "mom".
- That's it.
- Yeah.
- [Interviewer] What makes a good tattoo?
- [Stoney] A good tattoo, is something the man studied and thought it out long before he got it. Then he got it.
- [Interviewer] Or, as an artist?
- [Stoney] An art, it's the shading, it's not the color. You can put just a, a minimum amount of color to real good shading and it'll, it'll go over, it'll stand out. You take the old timey tattooing that was did this way, with heavy shading, that's the way I was taught. And I've seen the people grow older. Their tattoos still look better. And they were put on over 50 years ago.
- [Interviewer] Is that the old school?
- [Stoney] That's the old part of the old school yeah. See we have our stencil cleaned up, laying down here and I got a, powdered charcoal, dust a little on that and, then we rub it into this groove, the charcoal, like that. Then we dust it off, and wipe the excess off. Now the stencil is prepared. Then a small application of bacitracin, get a little greasy surface, and turn this right over and stamp it right down. That pulls this charcoal right off on the, on the skin. And this charcoal will leave a imprint there. That's your guiding line. Okay, Jim, try to relax.
- [Interviewer] Why did you pick that scene from Moby Dick?
- [Jim] Well, that it was the end of the book. I, I can't think of anything that would depict the whole of the book, like, like that scene. There was the white whale, pretty much, winning out over the ship, if it ever was a battle. Queequeg, was maybe the most important character in the book. Ishmael survived on his coffin and on the coffin was inscribed a bunch of hieroglyphics, he called them, that matched the tattoos that Queequeg had. Ishmael didn't quite know what to make of 'em. I think he was, he was speaking for Melville at the time too.
- [Interviewer] Have you ever done a Moby Dick before?
- [Stoney] No, uh-uh. No, never had no call.
- First time?
- [Stoney] How come did you say?
- Yeah why not?
- I never had a call for it. 51 years. Everybody don't read Moby Dick. But I did Barney Google. Happy Hooligan, Katzenjammer Kids.
- [Stoney] I was tattooing this cowboy, Brian, and a well-dressed guy walked in, last summer. And I said howdy and so he spoke and he looked, and I knew, I knew what he was looking for. He didn't want any tattoo. He says, he waited a few minutes... "Does that hurt?" And Brian says, "Is it supposed to?" He shook his head and he went outta here. Never said another word. And you know, he was, he he was disappointed, by being fooled right there in 10 seconds.
- Yeah.
- He was fooled.
- Right. He thought he was gonna step over a bunch of drunks.
- Yeah, right.
- And, blood running everywhere and all that crap.
- [Ed Hardy] Yeah, well they, that's what a lot of 'em are after. They, they come down and they want see the lurid part. You know, they want it to be, you know, something that they can get a, some kind of a cheap vicarious thrill out of. It's just too bad that that's the way it's gone so much. You know, you got a fantastic shop here. It looks great.
- Oh, this is ancient stuff.
- I tell you it's good stuff.
- I never was much of a hand to change anything.
- [Stoney] I had a lot of stuff, that disappeared in New Orleans, before I came up here.
- Yeah.
- Yeah. That's about it.
- [Interviewer] Do you feel like when you're tattooing that you're helping people somehow?
- [Stoney] Lemme study that over. Yes and no. I must be helping him because he's, he's craving it and he, he's in his right mind. He's not under the influence of anything that's for damn sure. And he's paying me to do it, but, I don't think I'm helping him a bit. If certain designs he picks. He might smoke pot, which is none of my business, he might have a lot of fun with it, I had a lot of fun with liquor. But I, why, why go out and wear a bag saying "I am a drunkard", "I am high as a kite". We all know that a baby craps in his diaper. Well why pull that diaper off in front of everybody and said, look what my baby does this. See, you understand what I'm talking about? That's it, see. I never put a swastika on in my life until I got here. And I didn't do it then for the first year. But I got big bucks come in here buddy, with money, I'll just take my business to Chicago. That's the way it happened. Now I got swastika. You think I like that swastika? Man thinks I like it is a damn fool.
- [Interviewer] You used to work with-
- [Stoney] I've had snake shows, I've had several snake shows. I started out with a big one, and they got too expensive. You know, they'll kick off on you, lose a lot of money. Then I wound up with den of, of all small ones, different types. Worked it as an educational exhibit. No damn geek or wild man crap. A guy told me how to work 'em. I had an old man working 'em, 60 something years old, World War I veteran, and he knew snakes, and he could lecture on 'em and never and worked, worked with 'em two hours never tell you a lie. They're awful interesting, a lot to know about 'em. Old guy in Alabama told me one time, said, "Boy,", says, "you, you're crazy." He says, "Get you a young broad to work them snakes." I said, they, they're too dumb, they don't know anything about snakes. He said, "Don't make a god damn, put her in shorts, jungle Jim hat on." And said they ain't gonna look at snakes anyway. And I got a damn broad and put her in there, and they'd say, "What kind of snake is that?" It's a snake. What kind of snake? "It's a god damn snake," she'd say. That's all she knew. And and they would just buy them tickets and come in there to see them legs.
- [Ed Hardy] Yeah, yeah.
- [Stoney] Now these daggers, I got them from Sailor Catsy way before he died.
- [Interviewer] How did Sailor Catsy die?
- [Stoney] Snake killed him. His own python squeezed him to death, in Tampa, Florida.
- [Interviewer] What was the story on that?
- The story, man, it was all over the world. Russia even published it. Not every day you get to see a python squeeze a man to death in civilization, you know? I mean out here, out of the jungle. He was doing some paint, he was painting the show front outside. His wife was down the other end of the zoo, that little zoo below Tampa. And, so she was cleaning the lion cage and he was up the other end painting and, he happened to look through the glass and saw his python trying to shed and he was having a, a struggle. So, he walked around and walked inside of the building where he could get into the cage, and, 'cause the cage door was open, this is the only way they know. But when they found him, the snake had just finished squeezing him out here under a palm tree and was climbing up the palm tree, or getting ready to climb it, and, what he had done, he'd went in there to help him shed and he had that paint thinner all over him and that, that, new hide, that, that snake just got a hold of him and wouldn't turn loose.
- Yeah.
- Mm hmm.
- And oh man, they got right up. She took that thing on the road for four years after that, cleaned up. And I saw one of the letters, some ignorant church woman typed it. It says, "you is working for the devil and I hope you be next." You is working for the devil, told her.
- Right, right.
- I hope you be next.
- Yeah.
- [Stoney] There's oldies buddy. Yeah, that come
- This is old time stuff.
- from Grimshaw.
- [Ed Hardy] Yeah, especially, I've seen Sailor Jerry had that mermaid painted up. He painted that about in the early forties. I've seen his version.
- [Stoney] That Red Cross nurse, that was called "Rose of No Man's Land".
- Right, right. Yeah, that was from a, that was from the First World War.
- [Stoney] Yeah...Charlie Wagner, I guess put more of them on than anybody in the world.
- Yeah.
- Hell, I was in his shop. He let me work in there two months to get enough money to go to Florida. And a sailor come in, he wanted a, an eagle on him. And Charlie says, "No, no, today's hearts day." Yeah, yeah. I don't put nothing but hearts on. Oh no, I want an eagle Charlie, I've been coming here a long time, long time. He said, maybe I'll get to you after a while. So after a while, the man put his arm down there, he drew a god damn heart right on him. He didn't give him no god damn eagle.
- [Stoney] Sue's husband went to work for me here, cleaning up. He worked a little while and finally his butt got to itchin' and he went out on a carney. He says, "My wife's gonna be glad to have the job." Well she came up here, started helping me clean up. So he took off. I said, now you must drive me to stock car races. Oh no, not like that. And I said, well, I'll have to get somebody to drive me to stock car races. And finally I scared her into it. Now she's the one that won't miss one. Oh my goodness. Got a photographic mind. She can remember time trials at all three tracks. Man, my, she got bad. Yeah.
- [Interviewer] What's your relationship with the car?
- [Stoney] With the Car? I, I just got my name on it, one of the sponsors. I'm across the, the tail end of it. So the drivers all get to see it when they follow. I said follow it, around the track. I only use it to, just to break away from the steady grind. Of course the tattooin' is my bread and butter. I can spend half of it, I guess, or what, what I make watching something like this, I guess. Yeah, keeps me from kickin the bucket.
- [Interviewer] Could we see your tattoo?
- [Dick] Sure.
- [Interviewer] Your dad's a driver too, isn't he?
- [Dick] Yes, he's been driving about 30 years.
- [Interviewer] How is it racing against your dad?
- [Dick] Well, I'm on the race track there's no friends or family or nothing. It's just every, you know, every person for their self.
- [Announcer] A good combination, a good car and a good driver.
- [Announcer] Green flag, Dick Dunlevy off and running in car number 39.
- [Announcer] They're doing a, a new feature movie there on, on Stoney. And I understand Stoney used to be with the circus quite some years ago and quite a performer. So that's what it's all about. They have the cameras down there on him. I understand they were down in the pit awhile ago, taking some movies of him. Stoney's quite an avid race fan as I understand, I've never had the pleasure to meet him, but, he gets around all these races, he loves races. Also operates a tattoo parlor in, up in Columbus, Ohio, up on High Street. So, look him up.
- [Announcer] Good to go, here are the cars they're goin' inside, they're goin' outside.
- [Stoney] Not the best, the very best.
- [Sue Shouting] Go Dunlevy!
- [Sue Shouting] Go Dick!
- Come on Dunlevy!
- Get 'em Dick!
- [Sue Shouting] Come on Dunlevy!
- [Stoney] I'm a glutton for punishment.
- [Ed Hardy] Oh, this is great. I, I never seen anything like this. I, I used to see a little bit of it on TV, but it's nothing like the live activity, you know?
- [Stoney] I'll try to read that little sign. I kind of like it myself. As I, Leonard Stoney St. Clair, am in the business of rendering a service to this community for the small group of people who choose to have their bodies decorated in some way or another. I choose to pursue my profession with intelligence and skill. Wishing not to offend anyone, but instead with my love of mankind to do what good I can before I die. Leonard L. St. Clair, Tattooist of the old school since 1928. A lot of people look at that and wonder, "What does that mean, the old school?" And, what are you, are you proud to be what you are? I'm just proud that I, I was able to, in the past, carry on the oldest art in the world and, and try to keep it decent, because I'm not gonna be here all the time and I hope it's somebody, I got it from a good man, so, maybe someday somebody will look at them little, daisies growing over me and say, "Well he, he didn't, he didn't butcher it up anyway." He carried it on, and handed down anyway, you know? You don't find us on every street corner. No.
- Really? That's it.
- [Stoney] I just been at it a long time, God dammit.
- [Interviewer] What keeps you going Stoney?
- What keeps me going?
- Yeah.
- Like I told you, corn bread and black-eyed peas. No, determination buddy, that's all, I, I'm not fighting a battle. I have a, it's natural for me just to be jolly and get up singing in the morning, and saying howdy to somebody comes in the door or something.
- [Interviewer] Yeah, I mean there's so many people, you know, are cripple like you and they don't do this they get sad.
- Hell, I never feel like a cripple. I, I haven't walked since I was four years old. It's same as not, never walk- What you never have had, you never miss. Little prison simple, I'll sit here and get lazy and you'll see me rocking a little like this just exercising. Don't even know I'm doing it. That's called prison simple. Yeah, I'm happy. I've had a good time of my life, yeah.
- [Stoney] God damn I'm ashamed of myself. Ain't got a god damn machine working.
- This one feels all right to me. It looks like it's
- Oh, it feels all right?
- Puttin' ink in, looks good and feels all right, so what more can you ask for?
- [Ed Hardy] You got a light touch Stoney.
- [Stoney] Yeah.
- [Interviewer] Why'd you pick that one?
- I don't know, I've always liked cartoon rats, you know, and that used to be a nickname of mine when, when I was a kid at the beach and all that. And I just, I really liked the looks of that on the wall. It's like any of 'em, you know, you just... Seems like something that's necessary to have. This is great. Yeah, I know this is a high high point of my weekend here. I never, never thought I'd get to go home with something to show for the trip, you know.
- [Ed Hardy] I like Stoney's sense of humor about his work and his ability to get, his drawing has really got a real, real good feeling to me, and I, I wanted to get something that had a real, a happy feeling to it, you know?
- [Interviewer] That's that there on the wall huh?
- That's a Columbus rat.
- [Stoney] Yeah.
- They don't have them kind of rats in San Francisco.
- No.
- Wanted to bring something back home that's a little unusual, you know?
- [Stoney] That rat's right there.
- [Ed Hardy] If I were to send you over some colors-
- [Stoney] I'll use every god damn one of 'em. I'll set mine aside and try 'em, that's what I'll do.
- [Ed Hardy] Would you prefer if I send it mixed up or do you want me to send it over dry?
- [Stoney] No dry, because, I'm using, just Listerine right now. But I have used, at one time I used, grain alcohol, distilled water, glycerin and gum camphor. That was a conglomerate. I don't, I haven't used it in years. I'm using pure Listerine now.
- Mm hmm.
- [Ed Hardy] I sure like the way you, you blend colors in. That's really, really.. Well then, I mean, I know you're the old school style, but it's, it's rare that I've seen anybody, I haven't really seen anybody work in the old school style, the tradition you came out of and, and using color in that the, the way that you've been doing it. I think that'll do.
- I think we got it.
- That'll hold me until the next one won't it?
- [Stoney] We got it solid enough boss, yeah, he done got..
- [Ed Hardy] That's not gonna go anywhere.
- [Stoney] ..A souvenir of Stoney's anyway.
- [Ed Hardy] Yeah, I think-
- [Stoney] It looks like some of my relatives.
- [Interviewer] How come you don't retire to those green benches?
- [Stoney] Who, me?
- [Ed Hardy] He meant why don't you retire to 'em.
- Oh, and to 'em, go to 'em.
- Same reason-
- No, no, that'll kill you buddy. When you, you... Long as a fox, long as a fox has got his tail up, he's in front of the hounds. But if he droops it, they won't be long then, no... Hound'll catch him. I'm just gonna stay here and craw my arms just as long as I can and bullshit with the people and, and, talk to 'em and get them to talk to me, and, that's, that's part of the damn game. Yeah.
